Legislature(2021 - 2022)ADAMS 519

03/18/2021 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:32:43 PM Start
01:34:09 PM HB69 || HB71
01:34:13 PM Presentation: Reverse Sweep - Office of Budget and Management
02:07:42 PM HB128
02:35:59 PM HB76
03:29:30 PM Adjourn
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+= HB 69 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 71 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Presentation: Reverse Sweep by Neil Steininger, TELECONFERENCED
Director, Office of Management & Budget
*+ HB 128 USE OF INTERNET FOR CHARITABLE GAMING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 76 EXTENDING COVID 19 DISASTER EMERGENCY TELECONFERENCED
Bill Postponed to 3/19/21 at 2:00 pm
HOUSE BILL NO. 69                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;    making   reappropriations;    making                                                                    
     supplemental   appropriations;  making   appropriations                                                                    
     under art.  IX, sec.  17(c), Constitution of  the State                                                                    
     of  Alaska,  from  the  constitutional  budget  reserve                                                                    
     fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 71                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive    mental    health    program;    making                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriations;  and   providing  for  an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:34:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  REVERSE   SWEEP  -  OFFICE  OF   BUDGET  AND                                                                  
MANAGEMENT                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:34:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster hoped the presentation  would help to answer                                                                    
some common  questions about  the reverse  sweep and  how it                                                                    
functioned.   He  advised   the   presenter   to  keep   the                                                                    
presentation brief, as there were  two bills that would also                                                                    
be addressed in the meeting.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NEIL STEININGER, DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,                                                                    
OFFICE   OF   THE   GOVERNOR,  introduced   the   PowerPoint                                                                    
presentation:  "Constitutional  Budget   Reserve  Sweep  and                                                                    
Reverse  Sweep"  (copy  on  file). Turning  to  slide  2  He                                                                    
indicated  that  the  Alaska  Constitution  addressed  three                                                                    
distinct funds: The Alaska Permanent  Fund (PF), (Article 9,                                                                    
Section  15);  the   Constitutional  Budget  Reserve  (CBR),                                                                    
(Article 9, Section 17); and the  general fund (GF). Each of                                                                    
the  funds  had  different restrictions.  Specific  revenues                                                                    
were deposited into  the PF and only the income  of the fund                                                                    
could  be appropriated.  The  Constitutional Budget  Reserve                                                                    
Fund  included  money  received   from  the  termination  of                                                                    
administrative  and judicial  proceedings involving  mineral                                                                    
revenues. He  reported that  the concept  of the  sweep came                                                                    
from  the CBR.  The  general fund  contained money  received                                                                    
from  taxes, fees,  and other  sources not  constitutionally                                                                    
directed  to  the  CBR  or  the  PF  including  the  various                                                                    
designated general  fund accounts  used in the  state budget                                                                    
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster   announced  Representative   Edgmon   and                                                                    
Representative Wool had joined the meeting.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  turned to slide  3 which was  a reproduction                                                                    
of  Article  9,  Section  17  regarding  the  Constitutional                                                                    
Budget Reserve Fund (CBR). It  was added to the constitution                                                                    
in 1990  via an amendment.  Subsection (d) pertained  to the                                                                    
sweep  and  the reverse  sweep  and  outlined the  repayment                                                                    
requirement. He read the subsection:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Repayment requirement    "If  an appropriation  is made                                                                    
     from  the   budget  reserve  fund,  until   the  amount                                                                    
     appropriated  is repaid,  the  amount of  money in  the                                                                    
     general fund available for appropriation  at the end of                                                                    
     each succeeding  fiscal year shall be  deposited in the                                                                    
     budget  reserve fund.  The legislature  shall implement                                                                    
     this subsection by law."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  reported that over the  previous decade, the                                                                    
state had drawn a considerable  amount from the CBR in order                                                                    
to  meet state  needs and  fill a  structural deficit.  As a                                                                    
result,  the state  owed a  considerable amount  to the  CBR                                                                    
which  triggered  the  repayment requirement  on  an  annual                                                                    
basis.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:37:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger continued to slide  4 to review the repayment                                                                    
requirement  commonly known  as the  "sweep." Between  FY 95                                                                    
and FY 10  the requirement was also triggered.  It peaked at                                                                    
a debt  of $5.2 billion in  FY 05 which was  fully repaid by                                                                    
FY 10. The  state's current debt began  in FY 15. Presently,                                                                    
the state owned more than $11 billion to the CBR.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  reviewed  the   mechanics  of  the  sweep's                                                                    
execution. The Sweep was effective  at midnight on June 30th                                                                    
of each  year. Any  balance in  an account  on the  night of                                                                    
June  30th  would be  swept  to  the  CBR. It  was  reversed                                                                    
through the  reverse sweep pending  a three-quarter  vote of                                                                    
the  legislature  and a  signature  of  the governor  in  an                                                                    
appropriation bill.  The reversal occurred at  12:01 a.m. on                                                                    
the  following day.  He explained  that because  the state's                                                                    
accounting systems  did not close  exactly at  midnight, the                                                                    
state  had 2  months to  do  clean-up. It  ensured that  all                                                                    
accounting  transactions were  in the  right place  and were                                                                    
made  to the  correct funds  before closing  out the  fiscal                                                                    
year on August 31st on an annual basis.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  continued that There being  NO OBJECTION, it                                                                    
was so  ordered. state accounted  for all payroll  and bills                                                                    
that were pending and being  received. The sweep transaction                                                                    
would not be executed  until the administration was finished                                                                    
closing  out the  year and  following the  completion of  an                                                                    
audit and a  review by the Legislative  Finance Division. As                                                                    
they  prepared the  annual  comprehensive financial  report,                                                                    
they looked  at the balances  of the account  and determined                                                                    
the amounts that  were actually in the  accounts and subject                                                                    
to the sweep at midnight  on June 30th. The mechanics of the                                                                    
sweep actually happened much later than June 30th.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  reviewed  how the  state  determined  which                                                                    
funds  were subject  to the  sweep. The  state did  not have                                                                    
much  guidance  on  how   to  interpret  the  constitutional                                                                    
provision. He  suggested that  a test had  to be  applied to                                                                    
different  funds to  determine whether  the sweep  should be                                                                    
applied to  them and whether  their amounts would  appear in                                                                    
the annual financial report. Funds  that were subject to the                                                                    
sweep  were  funds  the legislature  could  appropriate  and                                                                    
required  further  legislative   appropriation.  Funds  that                                                                    
listed purposes for which the  money could be used but still                                                                    
required legislative appropriation were  also subject to the                                                                    
sweep.   The  rule   came  down   to  the   availability  of                                                                    
appropriation by the legislature.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger reviewed  items that were not  subject to the                                                                    
sweep including  money and funds  that were  already validly                                                                    
appropriated  -  obligated  funds. For  example,  the  sweep                                                                    
would not defund an existing  capital project. Also, federal                                                                    
funds were not subject to  the sweep. Other trust funds with                                                                    
an  obligation behind  them such  as  the public  employee's                                                                    
retirement fund or  other funds that could only  be used for                                                                    
a specific  stated purpose under  law or held in  trust were                                                                    
not subject  to the sweep. Additionally,  donations were not                                                                    
subject  to  the  sweep,  because  they  usually  came  with                                                                    
strings  attached   by  the  person  making   the  donation.                                                                    
Accounts   that   were   subject  to   expenditure   without                                                                    
appropriation, capitalized  funds, were  not subject  to the                                                                    
sweep as well.  Receipts subject to refund  were not subject                                                                    
to  the sweep  including  the Alaska  Marine Highway  System                                                                    
(AMHS) receipts  and the University  of Alaska  (UA) tuition                                                                    
receipts.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:42:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger discussed  the sweep reversal on  slide 6. He                                                                    
explained  that  the  sweep reversal  was  an  action  taken                                                                    
annually in  the state's operating budget  or capital budget                                                                    
depending on  where it fell  in the legislative  process. In                                                                    
the  current  year,  the  reverse   sweep  proposal  was  in                                                                    
Section 28(a)  in the  FY 22  governor's proposed  operating                                                                    
budget. The  language on the  slide replicated  the language                                                                    
in the  budget implementing  the sweep. The  language stated                                                                    
that  any monies  swept  from  a fund  or  sub  fund of  the                                                                    
general  fund or  an account  within the  general fund  were                                                                    
appropriated back  to the funds  from the  CBR. Technically,                                                                    
it  was a  draw from  the CBR  and required  a three-quarter                                                                    
vote  of the  legislature. The  intent of  the appropriation                                                                    
was to  prevent programmatic  problems that could  be caused                                                                    
by  the  emptying  of  the various  funds,  sub  funds,  and                                                                    
accounts within the general fund.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  advanced to slide  7 to discuss  the impacts                                                                    
of the  sweep. If the  sweep reversal was not  enacted there                                                                    
were 3 categories of impacts.  There were high impact funds,                                                                    
funds  that  did  not  have projected  revenues  for  FY  22                                                                    
including the scholarships coming  from the Higher Education                                                                    
Fund  and  any  appropriation   made  from  the  Power  Cost                                                                    
Equalization  (PCE)   Fund.  Both  funds  did   not  receive                                                                    
revenues on a  fiscal year basis. Rather,  they were savings                                                                    
accounts set  aside in prior  years by the  legislature that                                                                    
produced income that provided for  the cost of certain state                                                                    
programs  including  the  PCE Program  and  the  scholarship                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  explained  that medium  impact  funds  were                                                                    
funds  that would  receive revenue  in the  following fiscal                                                                    
year.   There  would   be  money   to  back   some  of   the                                                                    
appropriations.  However,  the  revenue was  less  than  the                                                                    
amount being  appropriated in  FY 22.  Some of  the programs                                                                    
included  the   Alcohol  Safety  Program,   Chronic  Disease                                                                    
Prevention  within  the  Department  of  Health  and  Social                                                                    
Services (DHSS),  substance abuse  grants, the  Domestic and                                                                    
Sexual Assault Prevention Program,  AMHS operations, and the                                                                    
Spill  Prevention and  Response  (SPAR)  Program within  the                                                                    
Department of  Environmental Conservation (DEC). All  of the                                                                    
programs he  mentioned had revenues coming  in the following                                                                    
fiscal  year. However,  the revenue  was  not sufficient  to                                                                    
cover all of the appropriations.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:45:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson brought  up the  SPAR account.  He                                                                    
thought  the response  portion of  the  funding was  already                                                                    
fully appropriated, as  it had to be available for  use at a                                                                    
moment's notice. He was uncertain  the item should be on Mr.                                                                    
Steininger's list.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  thanked  Representative Josephson  for  his                                                                    
question.   He   responded   that  there   was   a   strange                                                                    
technicality to the way the  SPAR fund was filled. The Spill                                                                    
Prevention   and   Response   accounts  were   filled   with                                                                    
surcharges  on fuel.  However, during  the fiscal  year, the                                                                    
surcharges were held  within an account in  the general fund                                                                    
and   in  the   following   fiscal   year  the   legislature                                                                    
appropriated  the amount  collected in  the prior  year. The                                                                    
appropriation  into the  account occurred  on July  1st. The                                                                    
sweep occurred  on June  30th and was  subject to  a holding                                                                    
account  where  revenues  were  placed.  He  continued  that                                                                    
because of the way the  money was appropriated into the SPAR                                                                    
account, the response account was  not subject to the sweep.                                                                    
It  was the  revenue  collections from  the  year that  were                                                                    
about to  be deposited  into the fund  that were  subject to                                                                    
the sweep. The account itself  was not subject to the sweep,                                                                    
as it was fully obligated.  However, revenues going into the                                                                    
account were impacted  by the sweep. There  were areas where                                                                    
there  might be  unforeseen  circumstances in  which a  fund                                                                    
would be impacted by the sweep indirectly.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked members to  hold their questions until                                                                    
the presentation was finished.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  indicated there were funds  that experienced                                                                    
no  real  immediate impacts  such  as  funds without  FY  22                                                                    
appropriations  reliant  on  existing balances.  There  were                                                                    
holding  accounts for  revenues used  for specific  purposes                                                                    
but did not have ongoing reliance on a specific program.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger looked at  a non-comprehensive yet high-level                                                                    
summary of  some of  the impacts if  the sweep  occurred but                                                                    
was not reversed in FY  22. The table reflected dollar value                                                                    
shortfalls   of  several   funds   where   there  would   be                                                                    
significant  impacts to  the FY  22 budget.  He had  already                                                                    
reviewed  the  impacts  to  the  PCE  fund  and  the  Higher                                                                    
Education Fund.  There were  use taxes  such as  tobacco use                                                                    
education   and  cessation   that   were  directed   towards                                                                    
prevention  and  public  health, or  things  that  addressed                                                                    
domestic  violence  or  substance  abuse.  There  were  also                                                                    
industry  impacts such  as  the  Commercial Fisheries  Entry                                                                    
Commission  Fund where  there would  be a  shortfall in  the                                                                    
FY 22  budget without  a reverse  sweep. He  noted that  the                                                                    
impacts   would  be   mitigated   with   the  enactment   of                                                                    
Section 28(a) of  the governor's proposed  operating budget.                                                                    
He concluded his presentation.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster had  wanted a  refresher on  the topic.  He                                                                    
thanked Mr. Steininger for his  presentation. He was glad to                                                                    
see  the governor  had included  the sweep  language in  his                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:50:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon referred  to  slide 7  and the  Alaska                                                                    
Housing  Capital Corporation  Account.  He  wondered if  the                                                                    
fund was not subject to  the sweep because it was considered                                                                    
a capitalized account.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  responded that the  fund was subject  to the                                                                    
sweep but without  any material impact to the  FY 22 budget.                                                                    
The  capital corporation  account was  an account  at Alaska                                                                    
Housing Finance  Corporation (AHFC). However, they  were not                                                                    
able to spend from it  without further appropriation and did                                                                    
not meet the other categories that  would take it out of the                                                                    
scope of the sweep as he viewed the guidelines.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  clarified that it would  be subject to                                                                    
the sweep. He asked for  an example of a capitalized account                                                                    
not subject to the sweep.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  responded that a  good example would  be the                                                                    
vaccine  assessment account  - the  account that  funded the                                                                    
purchase  of  vaccines.  The state  received  payments  from                                                                    
entities and pooled them together  to purchase vaccines. The                                                                    
state  received payments  as general  fund revenue,  then it                                                                    
capitalized the  account and allowed  DHSS to  spend without                                                                    
an appropriation to make bulk  purchases of vaccines to keep                                                                    
costs down.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  referred  to   slide  4  regarding  funds                                                                    
subject  to the  sweep. He  asked  if the  state had  always                                                                    
swept  funds that  were subject  to the  sweep in  1995. Mr.                                                                    
Steininger  responded affirmatively  but only  on paper.  He                                                                    
elaborated that  no actual money  was moved from  account to                                                                    
account.  The   funds  were  not  physically   moved  across                                                                    
accounts.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked  if there had been  any broadening of                                                                    
the  funds subject  to the  sweep. Mr.  Steininger responded                                                                    
that  the  funds  subject  to the  sweep  had  shifted  with                                                                    
different understanding  over time. In prior  years (1995 to                                                                    
2010)  the  sweep had  been  reversed  in a  timely  manner.                                                                    
Several years ago,  there was uncertainty as  to whether the                                                                    
sweep would  be reversed.  In order to  ensure the  that the                                                                    
provision  was implemented  correctly, the  state needed  to                                                                    
review the issue with greater rigor.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:56:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked  if the review had been  done by each                                                                    
administration. He specifically asked  about whether the PCE                                                                    
Fund and  the Higher Education  Fund had always  been swept.                                                                    
Mr.  Steininger responded  that  they were  more recently  a                                                                    
part of  the sweep. He  noted they had not  necessarily been                                                                    
considered or reviewed with rigor in the past.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson relayed that  in the case of Hickel                                                                    
vs. Cowper  the implication  was that the  PCE Fund  was not                                                                    
sweepable  according  to  the Legislature's  legal  counsel.                                                                    
However, the  administration disagreed. He believed  that if                                                                    
the  PCE  Fund  was   swept  permanently,  litigation  would                                                                    
result. He asked  Mr. Steininger if he agreed  with the idea                                                                    
of crafting a law defining  the sweepable accounts. He noted                                                                    
the CBR provision stated, "As prescribed by law."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  commented  that the  most  recent  attorney                                                                    
general's opinion on  the matter was his  reference point as                                                                    
the  OMB  Director.  The opinion  determined  that  PCE  was                                                                    
sweepable  based   on  the   analysis  of   the  information                                                                    
available.   In  response   to  Representative   Josephson's                                                                    
question about whether there should  be a law, he thought it                                                                    
would  be  helpful  in  guiding  interpretation.  Currently,                                                                    
there   was   little   criteria   available   to   determine                                                                    
sweepability. He  suggested that  there were  many different                                                                    
funds impacted by the sweep.  The policy position of whether                                                                    
to reverse  the sweep  and its impacts  on the  state budget                                                                    
and state  programs did not  really change depending  on the                                                                    
outcome of  some of the  arguments about the  higher profile                                                                    
funds.  The importance  of the  budget item  being discussed                                                                    
did not  change based  on a determination.  It was  still an                                                                    
important  budget item  to  enact for  the  health of  state                                                                    
operations. He thought it was  an important thing to note as                                                                    
the funds were being discussed.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:00:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter  referred  to slide  8.  He  asked                                                                    
about the programs represented by the dollar figures.  He                                                                       
wondered if the legislature had  created a program funded by                                                                    
a  specific  account  which  would  go  unfunded  without  a                                                                    
reverse sweep.  The legislature had  the option to  fund the                                                                    
program with different funds. He asked if he was correct.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger replied  that if,  for  example, instead  of                                                                    
using the Tobacco Use Education  and Cessation Fund for $2.7                                                                    
million an unrestricted general  fund appropriation was made                                                                    
to the programs, the impact  would go away. It would require                                                                    
an appropriation of $2.7 million UGF.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter suggested  that if  a program  was                                                                    
important enough,  it would make  sense to fund  the account                                                                    
with UGF into perpetuity. He  wondered why the state did not                                                                    
just  do  it  the  way he  was  suggesting.  Mr.  Steininger                                                                    
thought  it was  a policy  decision for  the legislature  to                                                                    
make.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter   believed  the   legislature  was                                                                    
unable to do  so based on the Alaska  Constitution. It would                                                                    
be  a dedicated  fund.  They were  designated funds  because                                                                    
they had  to be  reappropriated every year.  The legislature                                                                    
did not have the authority to  make it a dedicated fund. Mr.                                                                    
Steininger  clarified  that  the policy  decision  would  be                                                                    
which  fund  to use  to  support  the program:  the  Tobacco                                                                    
Education  and  Cessation  Fund or  the  general  fund.  The                                                                    
policy for what fund to  use for any given appropriation was                                                                    
up to the legislature.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter  asked  what percentage  of  funds                                                                    
that were swept  were on the list.  Mr. Steininger indicated                                                                    
there was a  list in member's packets that  listed the total                                                                    
amounts of  funds that were  swept at the  end of FY  20 and                                                                    
totaled about $1.5 billion.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:03:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon indicated that  the reverse sweep vote                                                                    
on  the floor,  which required  a three-quarter  vote of  30                                                                    
members in  the House  and 15 members  in the  Senate, could                                                                    
prevent  the legislature  from  getting its  job  done in  a                                                                    
timely manner. He indicated that  the SBR was established in                                                                    
1986,  and  the  CBR  (a  place  to  park  billions  of  oil                                                                    
settlement dollars)  was established  in 1990.  The accounts                                                                    
were  created in  an era  of insufficient  revenues, several                                                                    
budget  cuts, and  the  Permanent Fund  Dividend  had to  be                                                                    
paid.  At the  time  oil  prices were  about  $8  or $9  per                                                                    
barrel. The Constitutional Budget  Reserve was a vault where                                                                    
legislators could not get their  hands on it without a super                                                                    
majority vote.  He requested an  opportunity to look  at the                                                                    
history  of  the   funds  and  why  they  came   to  be.  He                                                                    
appreciated the  presentation but  noted that no  one really                                                                    
understood the concept.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  liked Representative  Edgmon's  suggestion                                                                    
concerning a historical lookback.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HB  69  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  71  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:06:47 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:07:25 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENNED                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  called  the  meeting back  to  order  and                                                                    
invited the bill sponsor to begin his presentation.